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Letter to Editor: School Boundaries

Uniting Walnut Creek schools calls for open discussions of feasibility and residents' concerns.

 

Editor's note: Ruth Carver, an advocate for redrawn school boundaries to unite Walnut Creek schools, intended to append these comments responding to Patch reader Mom of the Horde, who was commenting on a story that touched on Carver's remarks to the Walnut Creek City Council Jan. 17 about the school boundary issue. Carver had technical difficulties adding the comment, so Walnut Creek Patch is running this as a letter to the editor.



Update Jan. 21, 2012

Hi Mom of the Horde,

I was in your neighborhood Saturday on the Mayor's Walk and I spoke to people who live near you but in MDUSD. Their children must go farther to school in Pleasant Hill:  one friend drives her child to College Park HS even though she's close to Acalanes HS;  another mom has lived her entire life in Walnut Creek says her back fence is the school district line so her children go to Pleasant Hill schools; and one family looked at a house on Conejo that was in WCSD, but weren't told about the district line when they bought another house on Conejo which turned out to be in MDUSD. And now, if College Park High School goes charter, or if all the Pleasant Hill schools unite to form a charter school district, then those families may be reassigned farther to other MDUSD schools.  We believe there must be a better system - we live in the same city, should share the same school system and boundary.

Regarding MDUSD, the main problem is that we cannot pass a parcel tax. Walnut Creek voted for the Measure D parcel tax but we are outvoted in MDUSD and it did not pass.  If we were added to WCSD/AUHSD then we would automatically be added to your parcel tax, adding $4 mil per year to our city schools, which we hope would avoid teacher layoffs.  We are fortunate to have good parent fundraising but it's not enough to prevent too many pink slips every year.

JJ - I'm a Northgate mom with no financial interest.

 -- Ruth Carver

 

Jan. 20, 2012

Hi Mom of the Horde,

Change may not be easy but sometimes it is best. As I mentioned, Pleasanton unified its city school district in the 1980s, and I'd like to add that since that time their high school API scores have surpassed Walnut Creek, both Las Lomas and Northgate (Pleasanton's scores were lower and now they are higher). Probably as a result, Pleasanton is attracting businesses and their economy is booming. And Pleasanton is a good model for Walnut Creek because it has the same number of schools as Walnut Creek, which seems to be an ideal size.

As a Northgate parent I do not believe a charter is best. Northgate is a good school, but by an accident of history we're in the wrong district.  Most other cities have a city school district — they understand the wisdom that "good schools make good communities." That is why the Legislature has recommended that school district boundaries should match city limits whenever feasible.

So I'm proud to be a dreamer, just like about 16,000 Walnut Creek voters who signed the two petitions to unite our city schools, but I believe this is best for our city and our families. The beginning of the process should have open discussions of everyone's concerns and the actual feasibility. The process will take years, which will allow plenty of time for planning and gradual adjustment, for the districts and everyone to prepare for and adjust to the change, but the time to start is now.

From Another Mom of Another Horde,
Ruth Carver

Related Topics: Ruth Carver, school boundaries, and school culture

Mom of the Horde

4:24 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012

Your group has been pushing for this change for years. I have yet to see any data on how this "change" would benefit families already living within the WCSD/AUHSD borders.

I live in Northwestern Walnut Creek, just 2 blocks from the WCSD/AUHSD and MDUSD boundary. Due to the age spacing of my children, I'll have at least 1 child attending WCSD schools continuously until 2023 (unless we move). I'm taking a longer term view on this. My concern is how such a change would affect my children and my neighborhood. In all honesty, I'm not too concerned about the issues the MDUSD schools in Walnut Creek. They're fine schools, even though the district administration is frustrating and unresponsive. Some people feel the same way about the WCSD superintendent (myself included).

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Jojo Potato

5:23 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012

I have to wonder what "skin in the game" has Ruth Carter. She's been pushing this for quite a while. Does she have kids in the local schools? Which ones? What age? Is she a real estate agent or other local business person?

I don't mean to be rude, but she needs to tell us what her situation is besides simply advocating for her views.

Regards, JJ

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Alisa Mac Cormac

6:10 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012

I know of Ruth's efforts and while not actively involved, happen to agree with them. I work downtown and my kids go to school on the Northgate side. The difference between the two halves of the city is palpable when trying to fundraise with local businesses or get the City/City Council involved with our schools. There is a long history that I won't go into, but unless you live "on this side" you can't imagine the disconnect. We don't want to interfere with your children and their education, we want to be apart of the city we live in. I'm sure those in Northwest WC feel the same way. I wish there were a simpler way. For now,we look to the City Council to recognize us, and look to the local businesses to help us educate half of the city's population.

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jessica freels

5:41 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012

I think the word educate is a little presumptuous.
Your asking us to take on the mismanagement of your district.
I appreciate you fighting for your kids schools, but acting like my reticence has to do with my lack of understanding won't get far with me or other friends who are in he WCSD.

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Lisa

1:06 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

When we moved here from Houston 12 years ago, we just looked up school scores and all the WC schools seemed great. We had no idea about the two different school districts, how unrepresented we would be in the MDUSD school board, and how half the town has a parcel tax, and the other half doesn't which causes a marked inequality in education and facilities. It was incredible to us that the city didn't have one city-wide school district like they do most everywhere else. It was a historical mistake made long ago that should be corrected. Frankly I'm surprised at the selfish attitude of some of these letters saying every one else should have known better, and not looking at what would be best for the city. Not that adding the five schools to WCSD would in any way be a detriment to the existing schools It would be a win-win.
Also, my kids participated in WC Girls Scouts and WC Soccer Club, and these two organizations and many many others always have scheduling problems due to the conflicting school schedules of MDUSD and WC.
Also, I think it is a crime that Los Lomas and Northgate aren't competing in the same high school sport divisions - they should be famous crosstown rivals!
Lisa D.

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ML

4:03 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Alisa - This may have escaped you but the solution is for you and Ruth to both move rather then steal our kids schools from them. Have you given any thought to the negative impacts this will have on kids and familys? Do you even care? If you do, then move and stop trying to steal our schools.

eastbay48

6:52 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012

I live on the WCSD side of town and I picked that side intentionally because of the school district, getting a lot less house for the money in the bargain than if I chose a different area. You made the choice of where in Walnut Creek you live, knowing fully the school district you would live in, so please stop trying to redistrict the schools after the fact. That is completely unfair to those who made their choices based on the school district, including those outside of WC who attend those schools.

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Barb

10:33 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012

I so agree with EastBay48. We lived near Treat and Bancroft and our older son went to YVHS. Then we bought a home in Parkmead so our younger son could attend Las Lomas. If you want your kids in the WCSD, move over here.

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Josh Goldman

10:55 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

You are uneducated. It is very fair because WCSD adds Northgate, Foothill, Bancroft, Valle Verde, and Walnut Acres, WCSD would be gaining all 900+ API schools. Murwood is a detriment and embarassment to WCSD and should be dumped because they draw too much resources and have the lowest API scores (700). I the residents who live in the Northgate, Foothill, Bancroft, Valle Verde, and Walnut Acres are added to WCSD, they would just start paying their own way and pulling their own weight by paying the same parcel tax. This is no different than a new member being admitted to a country club. They have to pay when they enter. That is fair. And as I said, 900+ API schools contribute more than take from the WCSD. Dump Murwood and Buena Vista, low ghetto schools with super low API scores.

Mom of the Horde

7:58 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012

At this point all that I've seen is a giant logistical headache, all for the benefit of a group of people who don't agree with the leadership of their current district.

All for what? So most of the kids in Walnut Creek will have the same school schedules? So it's easier to fundraise for your schools? IMO, it's kind of weak reasoning.

Maybe I just don't get it because I grew up in a city that was served by several school districts and never felt like I was in some way deprived because of it. The city I grew up in isn't that much different from Walnut Creek either..

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Castle Hill Bill

8:09 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012

re eastbay48- I totally agree with you. My wife and I chose to move to South Walnut Creek for the WCSD/AHUSD. We did our due diligence and decided that we would rather raise our family in a smaller house and excellent school districts than a big house east of YVR and big combined school district, even though the housing prices were about the same. Ms. Cormac and friend appear to have made bad decisions when considering school districts and now they want to change the rules. What is their motivation? Higher property values? We've been paying parcel taxes for our two school districts for years, how many school parcel taxes have they been paying for? I suggest that if they really want to be in the Walnut Creek and Acalanes Unified School Districts that they move within its boundaries.

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ML

3:56 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

You nailed it: higher property values! Why don't Ruth and Alisa just move? Because they want it thier way and do not care who it impacts, including our children.

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Josh Goldman

10:59 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Adding Northgate, Foothill, Bancroft, Valle Verde, and Walnut Acres to WCSD would be a boost to WCSD as the schools I just mentioned are all over 900 API. WCSD should dump Murwood and Buena Vista as they take too money and have low API scores. Some people call them ghetto schools.

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Lance Howland

9:17 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012

Hi Patch readers. A second comment from Ruth Carver, responding to some of your comments, has been added to the main text of this post, with the two segments dated. Ruth is having technical difficulties with her computer, so I'm helping out by adding to the letter to the editor.

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Alisa Mac Cormac

11:06 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012

When we moved here, we were told "this is the better side" and the two were equal in education. We wouldn't have chosen this location if we could have seen into the future, although there was a time in the not so distant past when MDUSD did have the better schools. For us, moving is on the table. But why would we move from one Program Improvement District with an iffy superintendent to another? We are considering Lafayette or Orinda. They have consistant education programs with great community support and an inclusive city structure.
What happens to a city when people move out? We would love to continue supporting Walnut Creek. We love the people here and made lifelong friends, but education and continued value in real estate is important, too.

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ML

3:52 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Alisa - So you admit that "We wouldn't have chosen this location if we could have seen into the future,". Well I bought a home and moved my family 20 minutes across town so they could go to Valle Verde, Foothill and Northgate. Now, because you made a bad decision, you want to take our schools away from us? Why don't you move instead? Obviously you have the free time. I will see you around campus.

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ML

4:09 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Alisa - So you admit that "We wouldn't have chosen this location if we could have seen into the future,". Well I bought a home and moved my family 20 minutes across town so they could go to Valle Verde, Foothill and Northgate. Now, because you made a bad decision, you want to take our schools away from us? Why don't you move instead? Obviously you have the free time. I will see you around campus.

jessica freels

5:31 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012

I'm interested in the whole Parcel tax reasoning. We have barely passed these taxes and she wants us to share? So we will have less? We already are struggling! And to top it off, MDSD is what? Three times the size of WCSD? So what are we talking about? We are expected to take on the responsibility of their mismanaged financially strapped district. I'm sorry but no. Why not vote in better people to your school board. It seems that's where it should start.

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JM Hogan

6:01 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012

Jessica - the movement is not to move all of MDUSD into WCSD - only the MDUSD schools which are in Walnut Creek. These schools perform very well, in fact some have even better test scores than schools in WCSD. None of the WC MDUSD scores contributed to the fact that MDUSD is a Program Improvement District or whatever it is called.

If these schools moved into WCSD, there would be MORE parcel tax collected. You wouldn't have to share the existing amount, we would be paying in also so there would be more money.

You say to vote in better people to our school board. The fact is, the WC schools in MDUSD are such a small portion of MDUSD that we don't have much of a say in who gets voted in.

I don't hold out much hope that this will ever happen, but it is interesting here to see how opposed people are to adding schools performing equally well or better than their existing schools to their district.

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jessica freels

8:33 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012

Thank you for your info. However The change should start in your own districts about who is
On the board. Whether they are being affective. Whether your superintendent is being affective. as little say as you think you might have, it's pointless to complain unless you vote.( perhaps you do.)
Also what is the rent to
Own ratio in your district?

Shari

8:28 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012

I don't much care about Northgate's test scores; what I care about is that when I bought my house I did my homework, checked the boundaries, and bought (at a much higher price) within the WCSD. I voted for and paid (for many years) parcel taxes for the district where my son attended.

When Northgate parents were satisfied with the way the school was run, we didn't hear a word from them. If this was a longstanding wish of Northgate parents, no one I knew had heard of it. Then a couple of years ago, every time we went to Longs we were accosted by parents demanding we sign a petition to get Northgate into our district - and wouldn't take no for an answer, I might add. Although I am not sure what precipitated this sudden, very organized push, I understand these parents' frustration. But not enough to vote for them to secede from Mt. Diablo.

JM Hogan states "there would be MORE parcel tax collected." I have no evidence of that. And I am NOT willing to take on Northgate's existing problems and try to solve them with my hard-earned money.

WCSD and AUHSD are small, well run districts - and I hope they stay that way. I am sorry that MDSD parents won't pass parcel taxes; I'm sorry someone may drive farther to take their kids to school. However, I consulted the DISTRICT before buying my house; perhaps these parents should have as well.

Why would these kids be reassigned if charter schools are created? And why is it our problem? I would like our districts to stay the SAME.

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Mom of the Horde

11:04 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012

I'm with you. I more or less like the way things are now. I'm absolutely thrilled with AUHSD, and don't have many complaints about WCSD. Sure, I'm not thrilled with with the whole principal switch thing that went on at the end of the last school year, and I'm not thrilled with some of WCEF's fundraising tactics (they're kind of hostile/insensitive towards lower income families) but all in all, I'm happy with the education my kids are receiving. Happy enough that I keep voting for those parcel taxes and bond measures without too much grumbling.

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ML

4:01 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Shari - I did the same: "what I care about is that when I bought my house I did my homework, checked the boundaries," but now Ruth and Alisa want to change the rules for their own selfish reasons. I bought my house because of the schools my kids could attend. Now Ruth and Alisa want to steal them away from my kids? We all need to stand up to them.

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Josh Goldman

11:04 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

You are quite stupid.
Northgate, Foothill, Bancroft, Valle Verde, and Walnut Acres add value to WCSD as they are high performing schools with highly intelligent students causing those schools to have over 900API scores. If added to WCSD, they will start to pay parcel tax, very similar to joining a country club and paying the membership fee. WCSD should dump their "ghetto schools" such as Murwood and Buena Vista as these schools have low scores and draw too much $$ to help problem students.

CWS

9:28 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012

I would need to see substantial data showing that combining city schools actually results in improving scores for ALL students before supporting this idea. Yes, Pleasanton's scores may be higher but is this the direct result of city schools being combined? I would need to see more evidence. My husband's office is in Pleasanton but we moved to Walnut Creek and purposefully chose the WCSD side because the district is small. Like other posters here, we checked the district boundaries before buying. We paid more for our house as a result of choosing a house in the WCSD. It would be difficult to support combining all Walnut Creek schools without data that shows that combining the schools would benefit ALL students.

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Mom of the Horde

11:14 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012

Getting WCSD/AUHSD families to embrace the chaos that adding that many new schools and new families would bring is going to continue to be a hard sell if the only benefits to us are "having all children in WC attending the same school district" and higher test scores. Maybe you haven't noticed, but many of the WCSD API scores have been trending upward anyway, and some of the Walnut Creek MDUSD schools tests scores aren't any better on average than the middle of the pack WCSD schools, so the argument that adding those schools will bring up the test scores for our district are a bit of a reach.

michael frederick

11:37 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

I just read Lisa's comment and many above. While most of the WCSD commenters site immediate, obvious, concerns -- the reasons for doing this might be less obvious and immediate. I'm glad to see Ms. Carver recognize that it took 20 years for a skatepark! This sport requires persistance and patience... So, with that in mind, consider this:

1. 20% of WC's population is scheduled (GP2025) to be added to condos downtown in the next decade (ie YVR, BART, ...). That's over 30% for WCSD. Neighboring jurisdictions recognize student generation rates of 1/3 for condos compared to SFHs. We're stuffing a barren population downtown that impacts passage of school bond financing (2/3). YV looks and votes more like our neighborhoods. It adds stability and continuity to WCSD.

2. All of YV votes in WC where 1/2 of WCSD does not. Segregation only serves to elect political nit-wits who are less sensitive to the neighborhood concerns much of WCSD faces. I don't want a McDonalds or a cell phone tower in my front yard -- we're in this together :)

3. Civic Pride. Fragmentation serves an indifferent downtown, not neighborhoods. People only speak out when something affects their neighborhood. Does City Hall care about isolated 250 member HOAs? Do you think they'd care more about a city-wide ethic? That, historically, is the glue to this community -- it benefits everything and everyone. It WORKS.

In any case, this isn't a cash flow issue you'll face next month.

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Josh Goldman

12:09 am on Monday, April 23, 2012

Some Walnut Creek schools in the WCSD are underperformers. Murwood Elementary has a high Spanish speaking population which causes a low API score. Buena Vista Elementary has a similar problem in that there are many "slow learners" in that school which also result in a low API score.

The Walnut Creeks schools in the MDUSD consistently score over 900 on the API. Bancroft Elementary, which has a high ESL % of students has scored over 900. Valle Verde Elementary and Walnut Acres Elementary also have over 900 API.

Northgate HS (MDUSD) has a higher API score than Las Lomas HS (WCSD).

I don't see how Bancroft, Valle Verde, Walnut Acres, and Northgate would be a detriment if added to the WCSD. The property owners of these schools would be hit with the new parcel tax thus paying their own way to be part of the WCSD.

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CCminority

11:08 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

I have had students in WCSD and now in AHSD. I don't see how adding these schools is a detriment to these districts. Jessica you talk of added families etc. the schools will be added not just the district lines changed. The student population of the schools in the WCSD/AHSD will remain the same. Parcel taxes would be collected from those within the new district lines to help support the schools being added. This sound a lot like "I've got mine" so I could careless about the rest of you.

Also, if you were to talk to anyone in Lafayette, Orinda or Moraga they would tell you that (as unfair and biased as it is) Las Lomas is considered to be the poor school in the district and that it pulls the district down. Doesn't feel so good when your the odd man out and I hate to tell you folks, but that has been the sentiment since I went to Acalanes in the 1980's.

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Josh Goldman

10:48 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

True, Las Lomas High in Walnut Creek is a ghetto school with poor scores. It is the retarded brother that you keep in the closet and are embarassed of, according to Acalanes High students. The reason is Las Lomas is right in the smack of the WC apartment ghetto where "the help" lives. "The help" works cleaning the houses of those in the Northgate area. Northgate High is a highly sought after school and is the best school in WC.

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