Presidential Debate 2012: Top 5 Issues

c5 October 17, 2012 at 02:16 pm

i think the president 'won' this debate, but i found the tone by both guys to be decidedly unpresidential. i am one of those rare centrists, who is liberal on social issues but conservative on fiscal matters. right now, the only issue that really matters to me is deficit reduction. give the president (who i voted for) a giant fail on this issue for effectively killing bowles/simpson, which was still the only viable and balanced plan that i have seen or heard. that was his commission, and some brave soles from both parties compromised enough to put forth a plan that reduced the deficit via modest reforms to entitlement programs with radical reform to the tax code. no sacred cows, increased tax revenues falling mostly on the wealthy, etc...but the president decided not to be brave or bold or to show leadership. huge lost opportunity for the country.
to the points above, imo: --energy policy, clear win for romney. --gas prices, draw as there is no short term fix. california has its own stupid problem --unemployment, if you are a believer as i am that tax code reform is the best way to accelerate the economy, win for romney --women in workplace--was this an issue? women's issues generally, and social issues more broadly, obama wins --tax cuts, neither is talking about tax cuts. romney is talking about major tax code reforms with lower rates offset by fewer deductions/credits. obama wants to keep the code and raise taxes in a number of ways. imo romney wins this one.

MG October 17, 2012 at 02:37 pm

When Obama was talking about his concern for women's issues, it would have been nice if Romney had quoted the major news outlets who had reported an incredibly hostile work environment towards women in the Obama White House during the first two years of the adminsitration. Obama lovers, do any of you remember the women who went public describing how they were excluded from the "boys circle?"
Didn't think so. One of those inconvenient truths, eh?

Nile Kinnick October 17, 2012 at 03:17 pm

"Our country might have been better off if it was still just men voting. There is nothing worse than a bunch of mean, hateful women. They are diabolical in how than can skewer a person. I do not see that in men. The whole time I worked, I'd much rather have a male boss than a female boss. Double-minded, you never can trust them."
Gotta love what Tea Party leaders (Janis Lane) think about women.

Nile Kinnick October 17, 2012 at 03:22 pm

Then you must have been disappointed when Romnoodle lied about hiring females. Here's what really happened.
"...a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor. They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected." "In other words, Romney did not, as he claimed, 'make a concerted effort to find qualified women for my administration.' The group came to him with that binder and demanded his attention." As you say MG, an inconvenient truth. Further demo of why Obummer and Romnoodle are bad for this country.

Stephanie Morabe October 17, 2012 at 04:01 pm

Was there anything that stood out from the debate that seemed to be a constant in your social newsfeeds this morning?

Nile Kinnick October 17, 2012 at 04:23 pm

Watching a room full of Republicans and Democrats is like watching a room full of Ray Charleses. It's a bunch of blind people swaying to the music and each shouting "You Got The Right One, Baby".
It's frickin' hilarious.

MG October 17, 2012 at 07:02 pm

NK
I can imagine what Rahm Emmanul would have done with the binder when Obama was practicing his "lead from behind." Yup, straight in the waste basket with an expletive.

Nile Kinnick October 17, 2012 at 07:14 pm

No earthly idea what you're talking about. But, ok.

Nile Kinnick October 17, 2012 at 07:23 pm

It's October. If you haven't made a decision regarding your choice for President & need these ridiculous debates to do so, stay home on election day, order a pizza and let the adults handle it. Thanks!

MG October 17, 2012 at 07:51 pm

If you don't know who Rahm Emmanual is and what lead from behind means, I can't help you. No one can

Nile Kinnick October 18, 2012 at 02:52 am

Did I ask for help? I don't think I did. Thanks tho.

c5 October 18, 2012 at 10:53 am

except it's really not funny for the country...

Nile Kinnick October 18, 2012 at 11:45 am

I hope so.

Forrest October 18, 2012 at 11:51 am

Nile you are a "get the last word in" guy...should
have known. Have a nice life!

Ralph Hoffmann October 18, 2012 at 04:41 pm

Be sure to vote for President, but not for Tweedledum (Obama) or Tweedledee (Romney). There are 4 other candidates for President on your ballot, Roseanne Barr,
Gary Johnson, Jill Stein and Thomas Hoefling, any of whom would be better than the Teedles.

Triple Canopy October 18, 2012 at 11:21 pm

Ralph, ya really ought to get back on your meds. Did you leave them on the bus?
I got a kick out of your testimony that Broadway Plaza should strive to attract a store which carries vibrators "to entertain the ladies and keep them busy".

Ralph Hoffmann October 19, 2012 at 09:10 pm

Triple Canopy, I AM in my meds, the best that money can buy. Note the Readers' Digest Humor section has for years been titled, "Laughter, the Best Medicine."
Note also that Roseanne Barr's profession is a comedian. I endorse her!